Other (indicate in message) Submitted: June 25, 2018 | Updated: July 13, 2018
Henderson County Salaries
Henderson County employee salaries for FY17
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July 13, 2018 3:34 pm
5 years ago
from: Russ Burrell <[email protected]>
to: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
date: Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:34 PM
subject: RE: Henderson County salaries as of June 30, 2017Russ, please. J
From: Sunshine Request [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:34 PM
To: Russ Burrell <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Henderson County salaries as of June 30, 2017
Status: Completed -
July 13, 2018 3:31 pm
5 years ago
3:33pm
Apologies – For our future reference, please let us know if you prefer we should call you “Russ” as indicated in the email “sent from” address, or if you prefer “Charles” as in your message signatures.
Thank you for your time.
Have a great evening!Sunshine Request
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: Russ Burrell <[email protected]>
date: Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:31 PM
subject: Re: Henderson County salaries as of June 30, 2017Hi Russ,
Thank you very much for your assistance.
We appreciate your help and also your excellent responsiveness and prompt attention to the request.
Thank you for your time.
Have a great weekend!Sunshine Request
Status: Completed -
July 13, 2018 3:07 pm
5 years ago
from: Russ Burrell <[email protected]>
to: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
date: Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:07 PM
subject: Henderson County salaries as of June 30, 2017Good afternoon,
Attached is a report from MUNIS generated by the County’s H.R. staff showing Henderson County salaries used in creating payroll paid June 30, 2017 (pay period ending June 23, 2017). You’ll have no problem telling wage rates for hourly employees from annual salaries.
If further questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me.
Charles Russell Burrell
County AttorneyEditor’s Note: Please see referenced file (00209777.PDF) at top left in “Documents”.
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July 13, 2018 11:36 am
5 years ago
from: Russ Burrell <[email protected]>
to: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
date: Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:36 AM
subject: RE: Records Request: Henderson County SalariesGood morning,
Will do, re FY2017 salaries.
We have a form that (not surprisingly) tracks N.C. Gen. Stat. §153A-98 precisely. The problem is that it is not a “public record”, but rather a gleaning of info from the county’s employment records. It takes a *lot* of time to do. We do it because while Chapter 132 only talks of “access” to “public records”, “personnel” is different.
When you asked for name/salary, I can get (I think) that as a report from the County’s accounting software. For a .pdf report from that software, its easy. For a spreadsheet (or database or other machine readable form) from that software, limiting the parameters is not as easy. (At least it is not for me. The software is Tyler Technologies “MUNIS”. I don’t have access to the payroll function, but presuming it is the same as the departmental accounting function I have access to, I don’t get to pick and choose the fields I convert to a spreadsheet. If I hit the “Excel” button, all fields in the account I’m looking at are converted.) So the requested data that would be converted to a spreadsheet or database file would also include “employee deductions for 401(k)”, for example, or “hours of vacation accrued/remaining”. Those items would have to be redacted, since violation of §153A-98 is a crime. FYI, since I’ve done a *lot* of this on employment records this year, we’re working with Tyler on either a new module for MUNIS or alternate software to do this in an automated (I view it as “less painful”) manner.
I’ll email you in shortly with an update (as soon as I get it) from HR and/or Finance.
Charles Russell Burrell
County Attorney
Status: Clarification Provided -
July 13, 2018 11:15 am
5 years ago
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: Russ Burrell <[email protected]>
cc: Janice Prichard <[email protected]>, Samantha Reynolds <[email protected]>
date: Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:15 AMHi Russ,
Thank you for your reply.
I’d like to make one edit – The original request asked for all salaries for FY2017. In clarifying the request to you previously, we also included “current salary”. In keeping with the sender’s original request, you can please remove the part about “current salary”, just make sure that the request applies only to FY2017. Thank you!
Can you also please clarify what part of the request is not permitted under N.C. Gen. Stat. Section 153A-98, and what information needs to be redacted, or what the concern is (for example, if there is a particular category of employee that is the concern)?
We’ve asked for employee name, position / title, employment date, and salary for FY2017. As indicated in § 153A-98. Privacy of employee personnel records, section b.
(b) The following information with respect to each county employee is a matter of public record:
(1) Name.
(2) Age.
(3) Date of original employment or appointment to the county service.
(4) The terms of any contract by which the employee is employed whether written or oral, past and current, to the extent that the county has the written contract or a record of the oral contract in its possession.
(5) Current position.
(6) Title.
(7) Current salary.
(8) Date and amount of each increase or decrease in salary with that county.
(9) Date and type of each promotion, demotion, transfer, suspension, separation or other change in position classification with that county.
(10) Date and general description of the reasons for each promotion with that county.
(11) Date and type of each dismissal, suspension, or demotion for disciplinary reasons taken by the county. If the disciplinary action was a dismissal, a copy of the written notice of the final decision of the county setting forth the specific acts or omissions that are the basis of the dismissal.
(12) The office to which the employee is currently assigned.
We also understand this request asks for the information in a spreadsheet format. While we can request specific formats from government entities, we understand that we cannot require them to produce info. in a particular format. We’re happy to post whatever results of the request we may receive.
If you’re interested, here are the results of a similar request fulfilled through our site to Buncombe County Gov for their salary data, as well as the Sheriff’s Department.
https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/buncombe-county-salary-data/
Thank you for your time,
Have a great day!Sunshine Request
Status: Clarification Requested -
July 12, 2018 8:01 pm
5 years ago
10:20pm
from: Russ Burrell <[email protected]>
to: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
cc: Janice Prichard <[email protected]>, Samantha Reynolds <[email protected]>
date: Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:20 PMIt will probably be provided as a .pdf report. Providing as spreadsheet I think requires sending (or more accurately, spending hours redacting, since this involves over 700 employees) information not permitted to be provided under N.C. Gen. Stat. Section 153A-98.
As for which you are requesting, I guess I’m surprised. I’m very used to receiving (and responding to) this request for “all employees earning more than $X” (local newspaper last used $50 or 60,000). I’m not used to dealing with this request for information regarding line deputies and jailers, social workers and clerical staff.
I’m asked our H.R. and Finance folks to provide this info as they can, and it will follow as soon as I receive it.
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: Russ Burrell <[email protected]>
date: Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 8:01 PM
subject: Re: FW: Records Request: Henderson County SalariesHi Russ,
Thank you for following up.
Our site is used anonymously by the community. We do not know the name or address of the users of our site, so we do not typically have any additional information to provide besides what is sent to us in the original requests.
However, our Sunshine team will interpret this request on behalf of the sender to mean that they would like “a list of all Henderson County employee salaries for FY17. Please provide this is a machine readable format (such as a spreadsheet) and include the employee name, position / title, employment date, and current salary.”
Thank you for your assistance.
Have a great evening!
Sunshine Request
Status: Government Processing Request -
July 12, 2018 4:22 pm
5 years ago
from: Russ Burrell <[email protected]>
to: “[email protected]” <[email protected]>
date: Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 4:22 PM
subject: FW: Records Request: Henderson County SalariesGood afternoon,
The below email has been forwarded to me. Before I can take action on it, I need to know more precisely what you are asking for. What I mean is are you asking for information something like:
Name of employee
Current Salary
Or
Position title
Salary Range
number of people employed in this positionI’m confident the either the accounting software or our H.R. department can do either, but typically I’ve not seen a request for *every* employee by name, even when newspapers are creating a database.
Thanks!
Charles Russell Burrell
County Attorney
Office of the County Attorney
Henderson County
Status: Government Processing Request -
July 12, 2018 3:35 pm
5 years ago
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: PIO <[email protected]>
date: Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:35 PM
subject: Records Request: Henderson County SalariesHello Henderson County,
I work for a website called Sunshine Request www.sunshinerequest.com. We built a site that makes it easier to make public records requests by filling out a simple form, and the results of any requests are posted on our site. This allows citizens to learn more about our local government, while saving staff from having to fulfill duplicate requests. If you have any questions about the project, please let me know, and I’ll be happy to answer.
We recently received a request for information that may be available in your office. If there’s another party that we should be contacting about this request then please let us know.
Here are the details sent by the requester:
Subject: Henderson County Salaries
Message:
“Henderson County employee salaries for FY17”
We appreciate your help.
Have a great afternoon!Sunshine Request
Status: Sent to Government -
June 25, 2018 3:24 pm
5 years ago
Submitted to Sunshine Request
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