Hello Sunshine Request!
I have been curious about the amount of money spent catering to the high school football fanaticism at Pisgah High School for a number of years. I would like to know the following:
1) How much of the school’s athletic budget is devoted to football, and what are the amounts,
2) Does HaywoodCounty or the Town of Canton provide any sort of in-kind government support (police, fire and EMS, etc) and what are the amounts?
I’d like this information for the past ten years, and broken down by year.
Thank you very much for your time!
Editor’s Note: Sunshine Request makes no claim as to the veracity of any statements or information contained in any of the requests, or public records, we receive.
Editor’s Note:
Of note – Here are other requests we’ve requests related to Haywood County Schools:1. Haywood County Schools certification
https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/haywood-county-schools-certification/2. Tuscola High School
https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/tuscola-high-school/
5 years ago
02/05/19 Editor’s Note: For all future status updates related to this request, please keep track here for the time being:
“Haywood County Schools certification”
https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/haywood-county-schools-certification/.
Patrick Smathers has been replying to all three related requests on that email thread.
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]> cc: Bill Nolte <[email protected]>
date: Feb 5, 2019, 4:13 PM
subject: Re: Records Request: Haywood County Schools certification
Good afternoon Pat,
Hope you’ve been well! Following up and checking in on our email from last week.
Thank you,
Sunshine Request
5 years ago
Editor’s Note: Below, Patrick Smathers is replying to us on the email thread intended for another request called “Haywood Co. Schools Certification”. His reply there, and our subsequent follow ups, will serve as a response to all three requests:
https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/pisgah-high-school/
https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/tuscola-high-school/
https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/haywood-county-schools-certification/
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]> cc: Bill Nolte <[email protected]>
date: Jan 29, 2019, 12:22 PM
subject: Re: Records Request: Haywood County Schools certification
Good Afternoon Pat,
Thank you for your reply!
Yes, you’re correct that you’ve also sent that information to us via the email thread for the Pisgah High request. However, we have not received any response to our two recent follow ups we sent you in response to your message.
For reference –
Pisgah: https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/pisgah-high-school/
Tuscola: https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/tuscola-high-school/
We’ll restate our question here:
“ RE: Providing a name –
Our understanding is that NC Public Records Law does not require that an individual must provide any identifying information when making a records request. If you can please cite the portion of NC State Law or School Policy that requires this information, this would be helpful for our records. Please let us know if you’re willing to fulfill the requests, as provided.
Regarding whether we can provide additional info. or clarification related to the details of the request – We pass along the requests, as written by the requesters, and add the completed requests to our site. We do not have any additional information to provide at this time, other than what was sent in. However, if the sender does wish to clarify any portions of the request, they are welcome to do at any time so by resubmitting a new form through our website, and providing those details.”
Thank you for your assistance with the requests.
Have a great afternoon!
Sunshine Request
from: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]>
to: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
cc: Bill Nolte <[email protected]>
date: Jan 29, 2019, 9:01 AM
subject: Re: Records Request: Haywood County Schools certification
Dear Sunshine Request, your request has been forwarded to me for response. Please see my previous response to a previous request in which I ask that the requestor please identify themselves for administrative purposes. The public records law states that a “person” (which has also been interpreted to include a legal entity such as corporation) is included in that definition. As present, I do not think a website, or application would fit that designation. If you have other information to the contrary please advise. We will be pleased to respond to this “person’s” request upon identification, or upon further documentation that a computer application is a “person” as defined by the statute. Please consider this a further response the requestor(s) regarding athletic support at both Tuscola and Pisgah High School. Thank you. Pat Smathers.
5 years ago
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]>
date: Jan 25, 2019, 3:06 PM
subject: Re: Records Request: Pisgah High school
Good afternoon Patrick,
Hope you’ve been well, just wanted to follow up on the email we sent last week regarding the “Pisgah High School” and “Tuscola High School” request!
Thank you,
Sunshine Request
5 years ago
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]>
date: Jan 17, 2019, 11:29 AM
subject: Re: Records Request: Pisgah High school
Good Afternoon Patrick,
Thank you for your reply, and thank you for your assistance with the requests!
(Editor’s note: For the users on our website, I’d like to state here that the email thread for the request Patrick is replying to is called “Pisgah High School” https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/pisgah-high-school/. He is also referencing a different (but very similar) request from another email thread on our site called “Tuscola High School” https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/tuscola-high-school/).
Patrick, if you would like to continue to reply in this email chain to address both requests, that’s no problem – We will add any updates received to both requests on our site!
RE: Providing a name –
Our understanding is that NC Public Records Law does not require that an individual must provide any identifying information when making a records request. If you can please cite the portion of NC State Law or School Policy that requires this information, this would be helpful for our records. Please let us know if you’re willing to fulfill the requests, as provided.
Regarding whether we can provide additional info. or clarification related to the details of the request – We pass along the requests, as written by the requesters, and add the completed requests to our site. We do not have any additional information to provide at this time, other than what was sent in. However, if the sender does wish to clarify any portions of the request, they are welcome to do at any time so by resubmitting a new form through our website, and providing those details.
Thank you for your assistance.
Have a great day!
Sunshine Request
from: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]> to: [email protected]
date: Jan 17, 2019, 10:29 AM
subject: Re: Records Request: Pisgah High school
To Whom It May Concern:
Please be advised I am responding as attorney for the Haywood County School System. Your request regarding Tuscola and Pisgah High Schools has been forwarded to me for response. The School System is very willing to respond, but for administrative purposes, this is to request that the person or legal entity requesting please identify themselves. This will assist in determining if the request is valid and prevent responding multiple times. Second, pursuant to applicable North Carolina public records law, we assume you are requesting the athletic budgets for Pisgah and Tuscola High Schools from which the requestor may themselves determine the amount spent. We do not have documents showing sums paid by Haywood County, Town of Waynesville, Town of Canton, or athletic booster clubs in support of the identified programs. The School System is attempting to determine if records still exist back 10 years.
Please advise as soon as possible so we may promptly respond.
Sincerely,
Patrick U. Smathers
…
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:00 PM Trevor Putnam <[email protected]> wrote:
Pat,
It is my understanding that Dr. Nolte has already sent you a similar email requesting public records. This third party has made a similar request to Pisgah as well. Would you mind taking a look at this one too?
Thanks in advance,
Trevor
———- Forwarded message ———
From: Casey Kruk <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:22 PM
Subject: Fwd: Records Request: Pisgah High school
To: Trevor Putnam <[email protected]>
———- Forwarded message ———
From: Darlene Dills <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 8:22 AM
Subject: Fwd: Records Request: Pisgah High school
To: Clint Conner <[email protected]>, Casey Kruk <[email protected]>
5 years ago
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: Sharon Case <[email protected]>,
Casey Conard <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
date: Jan 14, 2019, 1:19 PM
subject: Fwd: Records Request: Pisgah High school
Hi Pisgah High School,
I’m following up again on my previous message (see forwarded below) from Jan. 7. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Have a great day!
Sunshine Request
———- Forwarded message ———
From: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:42 PM
Subject: Records Request: Pisgah High school
To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Good Afternoon Pisgah High School,
I work for a website called Sunshine Request www.sunshinerequest.com. We built a site that makes it easier to make public records requests by filling out a simple form, and the results of any requests are posted on our site. This allows citizens to learn more about our local government, while saving staff from having to fulfill duplicate requests. If you have any questions about the project, please let me know, and I’ll be happy to answer.
The second part of the below request was seprately sent into Haywood County and they have already replied and stated: “The County may supply an ambulance or deputies to the ball games, but the schools usually pay for these. The school system would have the information for this.”
Here are the original details sent by the requester:
Subject: Pisgah High school
Message:
“Hello Sunshine Request!
I have been curious about the amount of money spent catering to the high school football fanaticism at Pisgah High School for a number of years. I would like to know the following:
1) How much of the school’s athletic budget is devoted to football, and what are the amounts,
2) Does HaywoodCounty or the Town of Canton provide any sort of in-kind government support (police, fire and EMS, etc) and what are the amounts?
I’d like this information for the past ten years, and broken down by year.
Thank you very much for your time!”
Thank you for your assistance.
Have a great afternoon!
Sunshine Request
5 years ago
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: [email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected]
date: Jan 7, 2019, 1:42 PM
subject: Records Request: Pisgah High school
Good Afternoon Pisgah High School,
I work for a website called Sunshine Request www.sunshinerequest.com. We built a site that makes it easier to make public records requests by filling out a simple form, and the results of any requests are posted on our site. This allows citizens to learn more about our local government, while saving staff from having to fulfill duplicate requests. If you have any questions about the project, please let me know, and I’ll be happy to answer.
The second part of the below request was separately sent into Haywood County and they have already replied and stated: “The County may supply an ambulance or deputies to the ball games, but the schools usually pay for these. The school system would have the information for this.”
Here are the original details sent by the requester:
Subject: Pisgah High school
Message:
“Hello Sunshine Request!
I have been curious about the amount of money spent catering to the high school football fanaticism at Pisgah High School for a number of years. I would like to know the following:
1) How much of the school’s athletic budget is devoted to football, and what are the amounts,
2) Does HaywoodCounty or the Town of Canton provide any sort of in-kind government support (police, fire and EMS, etc) and what are the amounts?
I’d like this information for the past ten years, and broken down by year.
Thank you very much for your time!”
Thank you for your assistance.
Have a great afternoon!
Sunshine Request
5 years ago
from: Candace Way <[email protected]>
to: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
date: Jan 3, 2019, 10:52 AM
subject: RE: Records Request: Pisgah High school
The County may supply an ambulance or deputies to the ball games, but the schools usually pay for these. The school system would have the information for this.
Thank you,
Candy
Elizabeth Candace Way, NCCCC
Clerk to the Board of Commissioners/
Executive Assistant to the County Manager
Haywood County Administration
5 years ago
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: [email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected]
date: Jan 2, 2019, 12:12 PM
subject: Re: Records Request: Pisgah High school
Good Afternoon Pisgah High School, Haywood County Government, and Town of Canton,
I work for a website called Sunshine Request www.sunshinerequest.com. We built a site that makes it easier to make public records requests by filling out a simple form, and the results of any requests are posted on our site. This allows citizens to learn more about our local government, while saving staff from having to fulfill duplicate requests. If you have any questions about the project, please let me know, and I’ll be happy to answer.
We receieved a request for information that may be available in your office(s) – please note that the first part of this request relates directly to Pisgah High School and the second part is more for Haywood County and/or Town of Canton.
Here are the original details sent by the requester:
Subject: Pisgah High school
Message:
“Hello Sunshine Request!
I have been curious about the amount of money spent catering to the high school football fanaticism at Pisgah High School for a number of years. I would like to know the following:
1) How much of the school’s athletic budget is devoted to football, and what are the amounts,
2) Does HaywoodCounty or the Town of Canton provide any sort of in-kind government support (police, fire and EMS, etc) and what are the amounts?
I’d like this information for the past ten years, and broken down by year.
Thank you very much for your time!”
Thank you for your assistance.
Sunshine Request
5 years ago
from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
to: [email protected]
cc: [email protected]
date: Dec 12, 2018, 3:54 PM
subject: Records Request: Pisgah High school
Good Afternoon Pisgah High School,
I work for a website called Sunshine Request www.sunshinerequest.com. We built a site that makes it easier to make public records requests by filling out a simple form, and the results of any requests are posted on our site. This allows citizens to learn more about our local government, while saving staff from having to fulfill duplicate requests. If you have any questions about the project, please let me know, and I’ll be happy to answer.
Here are the original details sent by the requester:
Subject: Pisgah High school
Message:
“Hello Sunshine Request!
I have been curious about the amount of money spent catering to the high school football fanaticism at Pisgah High School for a number of years. I would like to know the following:
1) How much of the school’s athletic budget is devoted to football, and what are the amounts,
2) Does HaywoodCounty or the Town of Canton provide any sort of in-kind government support (police, fire and EMS, etc) and what are the amounts?
I’d like this information for the past ten years, and broken down by year.
Thank you very much for your time!”
Thank you very much for your assistance.
Have a great afternoon!
Sunshine Request
5 years ago
