Other (indicate in message) Submitted: June 25, 2018 | Updated: February 5, 2019

Tuscola High School

Hello Sunshine Request!

I have been curious about the amount of money spent catering to the high school football fanaticism at Tuscola High School for a number of years. I would like to know the following:

1) How much of the school’s athletic budget is devoted to football, and what are the amounts,

2) Does HaywoodCounty or the Town of Waynesville provide any sort of in-kind government support (police, fire and EMS, etc) and what are the amounts?

I’d like this information for the past ten years, and broken down by year.

Thank you very much for your time!

Editor’s Note:
Of note – Here are other requests we’ve requests related to Haywood County Schools:

1.Haywood County Schools certification
https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/haywood-county-schools-certification/

2. Pisgah High School
https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/pisgah-high-school/

** 01/07/19  Editor’s Note: We called Tuscola High School to secure the best email contact to send this request to and were told to send it to Angela Dove in the Counseling Center ([email protected])

Status: Government Denied Request

Activity:

  • February 5, 2019 4:13 pm

    4 months ago

    02/05/19 Editor’s Note:  For all future status updates related to this request, please keep track here: “Haywood County Schools certification” https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/haywood-county-schools-certification/.
    Patrick Smathers has been replying to all three related requests on that email thread.

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]> cc: Bill Nolte <[email protected]>
    date: Feb 5, 2019, 4:13 PM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Haywood County Schools certification

     

    Good afternoon Pat,

     

    Hope you’ve been well! Following up and checking in on our email from last week.

     

    Thank you,
    Sunshine Request


    Status: Follow up
  • January 29, 2019 9:01 am

    4 months ago

    Editor’s Note: Below, Patrick Smathers is replying to us on the email thread intended for another request called “Haywood Co. Schools Certification”. His reply there, and our subsequent follow ups, will serve as a response to all three requests:

    https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/pisgah-high-school/

    https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/tuscola-high-school/

    https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/haywood-county-schools-certification/

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]> cc: Bill Nolte <[email protected]>
    date: Jan 29, 2019, 12:22 PM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Haywood County Schools certification

     

    Good Afternoon Pat,

     

    Thank you for your reply!

     

    Yes, you’re correct that you’ve also sent that information to us via the email thread for the Pisgah High request. However, we have not received any response to our two recent follow ups we sent you in response to your message.

     

    For reference –

     

    Pisgah: https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/pisgah-high-school/

     

    Tuscola: https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/tuscola-high-school/

     

    We’ll restate our question here:

     

    “ RE: Providing a name –

     

    Our understanding is that NC Public Records Law does not require that an individual must provide any identifying information when making a records request. If you can please cite the portion of NC State Law or School Policy that requires this information, this would be helpful for our records. Please let us know if you’re willing to fulfill the requests, as provided.

     

    Regarding whether we can provide additional info. or clarification related to the details of the request – We pass along the requests, as written by the requesters, and add the completed requests to our site. We do not have any additional information to provide at this time, other than what was sent in. However, if the sender does wish to clarify any portions of the request, they are welcome to do at any time so by resubmitting a new form through our website, and providing those details.”

     

    Thank you for your assistance with the requests.

     

    Have a great afternoon!
    Sunshine Request


    from: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]>
    to: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    cc: Bill Nolte <[email protected]>
    date: Jan 29, 2019, 9:01 AM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Haywood County Schools certification

    Dear Sunshine Request, your request has been forwarded to me for response. Please see my previous response to a previous request in which I ask that the requestor please identify themselves for administrative purposes. The public records law states that a “person” (which has also been interpreted to include a legal entity such as corporation) is included in that definition. As present, I do not think a website, or application would fit that designation. If you have other information to the contrary please advise. We will be pleased to respond to this “person’s” request upon identification, or upon further documentation that a computer application is a “person” as defined by the statute. Please consider this a further response the requestor(s) regarding athletic support at both Tuscola and Pisgah High School. Thank you. Pat Smathers.


    Status: Clarification Requested
  • January 25, 2019 3:06 pm

    4 months ago

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]>
    date: Jan 25, 2019, 3:06 PM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Pisgah High School

     

    Good afternoon Patrick,

     

    Hope you’ve been well, just wanted to follow up on the email we sent last week regarding the “Pisgah High School” and “Tuscola High School” request!

     

    Thank you,
    Sunshine Request


    Status: Follow up
  • January 17, 2019 10:29 am

    5 months ago

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]>
    date: Jan 17, 2019, 11:29 AM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Pisgah High school

     

    Good Afternoon Patrick,

     

    Thank you for your reply, and thank you for your assistance with the requests!

     

    (Editor’s note: For the users on our website, I’d like to state here that the email thread for the request Patrick is replying to is called “Pisgah High School” https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/pisgah-high-school/. He is also referencing a different (but very similar) request from another email thread on our site called “Tuscola High School” https://www.sunshinerequest.com/records_request/tuscola-high-school/).

     

    Patrick, if you would like to continue to reply in this email chain to address both requests, that’s no problem – We will add any updates received to both requests on our site!

     

    RE: Providing a name –

     

    Our understanding is that NC Public Records Law does not require that an individual must provide any identifying information when making a records request. If you can please cite the portion of NC State Law or School Policy that requires this information, this would be helpful for our records. Please let us know if you’re willing to fulfill the requests, as provided.

     

    Regarding whether we can provide additional info. or clarification related to the details of the request – We pass along the requests, as written by the requesters, and add the completed requests to our site. We do not have any additional information to provide at this time, other than what was sent in. However, if the sender does wish to clarify any portions of the request, they are welcome to do at any time so by resubmitting a new form through our website, and providing those details.

     

    Thank you for your assistance.

     

    Have a great day!

     

    Sunshine Request


    from: Patrick Smathers <[email protected]> to: [email protected]
    date: Jan 17, 2019, 10:29 AM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Pisgah High school

    To Whom It May Concern:

     

    Please be advised I am responding as attorney for the Haywood County School System. Your request regarding Tuscola and Pisgah High Schools has been forwarded to me for response. The School System is very willing to respond, but for administrative purposes, this is to request that the person or legal entity requesting please identify themselves. This will assist in determining if the request is valid and prevent responding multiple times. Second, pursuant to applicable North Carolina public records law, we assume you are requesting the athletic budgets for Pisgah and Tuscola High Schools from which the requestor may themselves determine the amount spent. We do not have documents showing sums paid by Haywood County, Town of Waynesville, Town of Canton, or athletic booster clubs in support of the identified programs. The School System is attempting to determine if records still exist back 10 years.

     

    Please advise as soon as possible so we may promptly respond.

     

    Sincerely,
    Patrick U. Smathers

    On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:00 PM Trevor Putnam <[email protected]> wrote:

     

    Pat,

     

    It is my understanding that Dr. Nolte has already sent you a similar email requesting public records. This third party has made a similar request to Pisgah as well. Would you mind taking a look at this one too?

     

    Thanks in advance,
    Trevor

     

    ———- Forwarded message ———
    From: Casey Kruk <[email protected]>
    Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:22 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Records Request: Pisgah High school
    To: Trevor Putnam <[email protected]>

     

    ———- Forwarded message ———
    From: Darlene Dills <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 8:22 AM
    Subject: Fwd: Records Request: Pisgah High school
    To: Clint Conner <[email protected]>, Casey Kruk <[email protected]>


    Status: Response Received from Government
  • January 15, 2019 4:04 pm

    5 months ago

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: Todd Trantham <[email protected]>
    date: Jan 15, 2019, 4:04 PM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Tuscola High School

     

    Hi Todd,

     

    We appreciate you replying last week to the request we sent in! Just wanted to follow up and see if there was any update.

     

    Thank you for your help,
    Sunshine Request


    Status: Follow up
  • January 7, 2019 3:53 pm

    5 months ago

    from: Todd Trantham <[email protected]>
    to: [email protected]
    date: Jan 7, 2019, 3:53 PM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Tuscola High School

     

    Thank you for your request.
    1. We are working on looking through our records to see what we have, we will see what we can find and for how many years back.
    2. Yes, both the Town and County does provide support through Police, Fire, and EMS for some of our events. We are not charged so we do not have an amount to provide you.

     

    Thank you,
    Todd Trantham


    Status: Government Processing Request
  • January 7, 2019 1:52 pm

    5 months ago

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: [email protected]
    date: Jan 7, 2019, 1:52 PM
    subject: Records Request: Tuscola High School

     

    Hello Tuscola High School,

     

    I work for a website called Sunshine Request www.sunshinerequest.com. We built a site that makes it easier to make public records requests by filling out a simple form, and the results of any requests are posted on our site. This allows citizens to learn more about our local government, while saving staff from having to fulfill duplicate requests. If you have any questions about the project, please let me know, and I’ll be happy to answer.

     

    We received a request for information that may be available in your office. We called and were told that you were the best contact for this request, however if there’s another party that we should be contacting about this request then please let us know.

     

    Here are the details sent by the requester:

     

    Subject: Tuscola High School

     

    Message:

     

    “Hello Sunshine Request!

     

    I have been curious about the amount of money spent catering to the high school football fanaticism at Tuscola High School for a number of years. I would like to know the following:

     

    1) How much of the school’s athletic budget is devoted to football, and what are the amounts,

     

    2) Does HaywoodCounty or the Town of Waynesville provide any sort of in-kind government support (police, fire and EMS, etc) and what are the amounts?

     

    I’d like this information for the past ten years, and broken down by year.

     

    Thank you very much for your time!”

     

    We appreciate your help.
    Have a great afternoon!

     

    Sunshine Request


    Status: Sent to Government
  • December 21, 2018 12:44 pm

    5 months ago

    from: Eddie Ward <[email protected]>
    to: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    date: Dec 21, 2018, 12:44 PM
    subject: Automatic reply: Records Request: Tuscola High School

     

    I will be out of the office December 21st 2018, through January 1st 2019. If you need assistance please contact Amie Owens at [email protected], or 828 452 2491


    Status: Sent to Government
  • December 21, 2018 12:44 pm

    5 months ago

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: Kim Jones <[email protected]>,
    [email protected],
    [email protected]nc.us
    cc: [email protected],
    [email protected]
    date: Dec 21, 2018, 12:44 PM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Tuscola High School

     

    Hello Tuscola High School, Town of Waynesville Government, and Haywood County Government,

     

    I work for a website called Sunshine Request www.sunshinerequest.com. We built a site that makes it easier to make public records requests by filling out a simple form, and the results of any requests are posted on our site. This allows citizens to learn more about our local government, while saving staff from having to fulfill duplicate requests. If you have any questions about the project, please let me know, and I’ll be happy to answer.

     

    We received a request for information that may be available in your office back in July. If there’s another party that we should be contacting about this request then please let us know.

     

    Here are the details sent by the requester:

     

    Subject: Tuscola High School

     

    Message:

     

    “Hello Sunshine Request!

     

    I have been curious about the amount of money spent catering to the high school football fanaticism at Tuscola High School for a number of years. I would like to know the following:

     

    1) How much of the school’s athletic budget is devoted to football, and what are the amounts,

     

    2) Does HaywoodCounty or the Town of Waynesville provide any sort of in-kind government support (police, fire and EMS, etc) and what are the amounts?

     

    I’d like this information for the past ten years, and broken down by year.

     

    Thank you very much for your time!”

     

    We appreciate your help.
    Have a great afternoon!
    Sunshine Request


    Status: Sent to Government
  • December 12, 2018 4:47 pm

    6 months ago

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: Kim Jones <[email protected]>,
    [email protected],
    [email protected],
    [email protected]
    date: Dec 12, 2018, 4:47 PM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Tuscola High School

     

    Hello Tuscola High School,

     

    Sorry to email again today! Upon sending our follow up email earlier, we noticed that it got bounced back. We are following up again now to ensure that it is going through and you are receiving the message. We are still looking to complete this request on our site and were just wondering if it was being processed on your end and when you anticipated it to be finished? Please let us know if there is anything we can do to assist.

     

    Thank you so much!
    Sunshine Request


    Status: Follow up
  • December 12, 2018 3:12 pm

    6 months ago

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: Kim Jones <[email protected]>,
    [email protected],
    [email protected]
    date: Dec 12, 2018, 3:12 PM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Tuscola High School

     

    Hello Tuscola High School,

     

    Just following up on this. We are looking to complete this request on our site and were just wondering if it was being processed on your end and when you anticipated it to be finished? Please let us know if there is anything we can do to assist.

     

    Thank you!
    Sunshine Request


    Status: Follow up
  • November 29, 2018 12:40 pm

    6 months ago

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: Kim Jones <[email protected]>,
    [email protected],
    [email protected]
    date: Nov 29, 2018, 12:40 PM
    subject: Re: Records Request: Tuscola High School

     

    Hello Tuscola High School,

     

    Hope you’ve been well! We are looking to complete this request on our site and were just wondering if it was being processed on your end and when you anticipated it to be finished? Please let us know if there is anything we can do to assist.

     

    Thank you!
    Sunshine Request


    Status: Follow up
  • July 12, 2018 5:30 pm

    11 months ago

    from: Sunshine Request <[email protected]>
    to: [email protected],
    [email protected]
    date: Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 5:30 PM
    subject: Records Request: Tuscola High School

     

    Hello Tuscola High School,

     

    I work for a website called Sunshine Request www.sunshinerequest.com. We built a site that makes it easier to make public records requests by filling out a simple form, and the results of any requests are posted on our site. This allows citizens to learn more about our local government, while saving staff from having to fulfill duplicate requests. If you have any questions about the project, please let me know, and I’ll be happy to answer.

     

    We recently received a request for information that may be available in your office. If there’s another party that we should be contacting about this request then please let us know.

     

    Here are the details sent by the requester:

     

    Subject: Tuscola High School

     

    Message:

     

    “Hello Sunshine Request!

     

    I have been curious about the amount of money spent catering to the high school football fanaticism at Tuscola High School for a number of years. I would like to know the following:

     

    1) How much of the school’s athletic budget is devoted to football, and what are the amounts,

     

    2) Does HaywoodCounty or the Town of Waynesville provide any sort of in-kind government support (police, fire and EMS, etc) and what are the amounts?

     

    I’d like this information for the past ten years, and broken down by year.

     

    Thank you very much for your time!”

     

    We appreciate your help.
    Have a great evening!

     

    Sunshine Request


    Status: Sent to Government
  • June 25, 2018 4:14 pm

    11 months ago

    Submitted to Sunshine Request
    Status: Pending